Workshop on
Fluctuations and
Continuum Equations for Granular Flow
April 16-17, 2004
Possible
Discussion Topics
- In the kinetic
regime, the approach has always been inherently statistical.
The element of dissipation in granular collisions leads to effects
that are not present in molecular gases. For instance, it appears that
for different species, granular temperatures are different... Also, correlations
appear to be induced during collisions that have no analogue in
molecular systems, but which affect the the distributions of velocities.
- In the dense
regime, friction inherently leads to ignorance concerning contact
forces. Thus, complete positional information on particles does not
determine force balance. Rather, there is a degree of ignorance about
the tangential forces (and therefore in a collection of
particles, the normal forces). This ignorance is
comparable to the same level of ignorance we face when
we try to deal with large numbers of molecules. It is
simply impossible to know information at that level of detail, so we must
take an ensemble point of view.
- Given 2, and also
typically contact reduncancy, what are the macroscopic
parameters that one must specify in order to determine distribution
functions? Here, a useful example is Couette shear flow: experimentally
or computationally, one can establish well definied distributions
for any parameter that one wants, but it is not clear what macroscopic
parameters really determine these distributions.
- What microscopic statistical behavior must one invoke in
order to predict the mean behavior for force
transmission? What are the appropriate distributions?
Edwards ensembles.
It is now clear that there are at least two cases:
- Strong taps where
the packing makes a random walk both in force space AND
in packing space. Are all stable configurations equiprobable?
- Gentle taps, where the packing has a fixed geometry, and
only contact forces rearrange. Are all configurations
equiprobable?
This could be tested in a simple geometry: a wedge with a
single ball. On the other hand, recent experiments by
Kabla and Debregeas show that under gentle taps the system
ages even without noticeable changes of density. Does that
imply some non uniformity in the space of configurations?
- In what circumstances an `as poured' system can be thought
of as a typical member of a tapped ensemble?
- Force chains/force network models
Assuming e.g. an Edwards measure on forces, can one derive the
macroscopic stresses in a granular system, and its response
function? This has been tried by Edwards and Grinev, but
it is fair to say that very few people really understand
what they have done. But it is clear that they asked the
right question! Using simplifying assumptions (linear
Boltzmann, or 6-fold lattices) one finds conflicting
results on the large scale structure of the response
function (elliptic/hyperbolic). My impression is that
a) the answer depends on the degree of anisotropy of the
packing. Isotropic packings should, nearly by symmetry, by
ellipical, whereas a sufficient degree of anisotropy might
help keeping the response hyperbolic (see, e.g. the
simulations of Head, Tkachenko, Witten; or Zucker Claudin
Clement).
b) there is a subtlety in the way the zero force limit is
taken before or after the large height limit, that might
affect the experimental results we have.
2. Cooperativity in slow
dynamics.
Many groups try to understand if there is a growing length
accompnying the slowing down of dynamics, both in granular
material and in glassy materials. Measuring the so called
4-point susceptibility, or other similar correlation
functions that try to extract a cooperative length from
the images, seem to me extremely exciting. Coming back to the Kabla/Debregeas
experiment (or the memory experiment of Josserand et al.), can
one understand what is going on in terms of purely local subsystems with
a complicated phase space (as in the trap model used by Head, or by
Kabla/Debregeas), or should one look for a growing dynamical length scale?
- In MD simulations of a gas, one can obtain surprising
accuracy with a relatively small system by treating
the walls as a thermal bath. I.e., each time a
particle collides with the wall, a random increment (positive or negative)
is added to the energy of the particle, the distribution of these increments
being determined by the wall temperature.
Q: Is there an analogous device
for accelerating simulation of forces in dense granular systems in the slow-flow
regime? This question might provide some clues about how to define the
granular temperature in the slow-flow regime.
- The double-Y model gives rise to a Boltzmann-type equation
to describe the statistics of force chains in a static
granular medium. Explicit solutions of this equation
have been obtained for discrete idealizations of the model: i.e.,
force chains act only in a finite set of directions and can assume only
a discrete set of magnitudes. These discrete solutions
exhibit paradoxical behavior.
Q: Can the paradoxes be eliminated by solving the full
model, in which forces have a continuous distribution,
both in direction and magnitude?
- The term "thermoplasticity" refers to a theory,
which was developed by Ziegler, Lubliner, Maugin,
Collins, Houlsby, and others, in which the complete response
of materials undergoing (rate-independent) plastic deformation, including
frictional materials, may be described by specifying two functions: a
thermodynamic potential (such as the Helmholz free energy) and the dissipation
function. Their approach is elegant and natural, and it avoids the
inconsistencies that sometime sneak into conventional formulations of
plasticity.
Q: Might use of this theory facilitate the passage from
the statistics of micromechanical behavior to continuum
constitutive laws? For example, in their formalism, the
yield function is obtained from the dissipation function
by a Legender transformation; it may be easier to construct
the dissipation function than the yield function since the former is
closer to the basic micromechanical physics than the latter.
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